Alternative rock band Archetypes Collide was built on authenticity; not just the desire, but the need to be lyrically honest. But it was a combination of lyrical integrity, musical genius and insistent ambition that transformed the lives of four instrumentalists from Phoenix into Archetypes Collide. From church performances to playing for crowds of 500 plus, Kyle Pastor, vocalist, Tyler Flamm, drummer, and Brandon Baker and Jared Knister, guitarists discuss their persistent rise to fame.
How did music play a role in each of your lives before Archetypes Collide was formed?
Kyle: Funny enough, we all seemed to have grown up in the church, so playing drums, guitar and singing were all things we honed. My mother played a big role in pushing me to embrace my musical ability and to develop myself vocally. As a child, I always sang duets with my mother on stage at church. She was able to support her education in college with a vocal scholarship. She truly knew just how valuable music would play a role in my life and made sure that I was always rooted in it. When I grew older, I started to find my own stride and play some instruments in the worship band.
How did Archetypes Collide evolve from playing music in a local church in Phoenix to playing at venues for crowds of 500 plus?
We’re always pushing ourselves to get to that next goal: to write more compelling music, to impact lives on a deeper level, and in turn to play for bigger audiences. We remind ourselves constantly that there’s always something we can do better, and not to settle for “good enough.”
How did the name “Archetypes Collide” originate? Is there a meaning behind it?
An archetype is synonymous with a blueprint or a prototype—something that is a foundation that inspires other creations to be built upon. With our new music, we pushed ourselves to write every song differently; different “archetypes” if you will. We wanted our EP to have a song for the ones who like to sing along, a song for the people who like to scream at the top of their lungs and a song for people who just like to move to the beat. We wanted to own our name with this new music and truly make archetypes collide.
The original line-up was a trio: Kyle Pastor, vocalist, Tyler Flamm, drummer and Cesar Marenco, ex-guitarist. How were Brandon Baker and Jared Knister, guitarists introduced into the band in 2014?
Our original lineup was essentially a studio band. We wrote and recorded our EP Foundations (2014) with Cesar, and soon after he had an opportunity on the East Coast for college and pursued that. Following that we found Brandon and Jared through mutual friends. It was a pretty simple process really; we got together, started jamming and it just clicked. It’s hard to find that kind of chemistry with people, but we were fortunate to find that right off the bat. We consider ourselves family now and haven’t looked back since.
Your music isn’t labeled as Christian, yet the lyrics of your 2016 single “Fractures” denotes a religious influence. Does God play a role in your music, and if so, how?
Some artists tend to straddle the line when it comes to this topic because it can turn some people off to the music. I primarily write about what’s real to me. God does play a big role in my life and my lyrics reflect that. Some people may appreciate that, and others may not. Lately, I’ve been pushing myself to be a little more vulnerable. Lyrically it’s different, but still just as authentic.
What are the main influences behind your music?
All of us have pretty diverse influences music wise, varying from pop punk all the way to R&B. Ultimately, we fall into alternative rock. This genre of music really clicks with us because it has sing along melodies, catchy riffs and raw emotion at the core of it all. There’s something special when you can come to a show and just let everything in life go for the night. It’s somewhat therapeutic in a way really. It wouldn’t be a stretch to say that our music helps keep us sane.
Which band would you say your music most resembles?
There are a lot of bands our music is influenced by: Linkin Park, Underoath, Hands Like Houses, Bring Me The Horizon, Silent Planet, and Beartooth. The list goes on and on. I’m not sure if there is a band currently that we line up with, but I think that is a good thing because we’re starting to really own our sound.
Can you name some of your favorite concerts? Were there any performances specifically that inspired you?
Honestly, every show we play is amazing. If we had to pick, I would probably say when we got to open for Silent Planet and Dayseeker. It’s incredible to see musicians who wholeheartedly believe in the words they write and the songs they play. Both bands have inspired me to dig deeper lyrically, and to be more transparent with how I present myself. It’s very easy to see through someone, and if they’re just singing the words to a song versus owning the words they sing. I pushed myself to make sure every single word earned its spot on this EP, and it wasn’t put there halfheartedly.
Are you referring to your upcoming EP?
Yes. I feel like I stepped up my game with the lyrics on this new EP. A common theme with these songs is the need to be transparent and real with who I am and how people perceive me. I think so many times we tend to put up this facade of who we wish we could be, versus who we really are in fear of people neglecting us and not accepting us. Hop on social media and you see it right away: people fishing for likes, looking for approval, and inflating their lives to be so much more than they are. It’s a hard atmosphere to grow and mature within when we’re all pretending to be someone we’re not. I struggle with it all the time, but decided with this new EP that I would step outside of my comfort zone. That’s where growth happens, that’s where genuine relationships are made, and that’s where we can come together and build each other up to live more purposeful lives.
You’ve performed at numerous venues throughout Arizona, and recently the band traveled to California. Any plans to venture away from the West Coast?
Playing in California was a blast. Lately, we’ve focused on building our local presence. With our new release coming up, we plan on expanding our horizons to other AZ markets and ultimately, other nearby states. We’re excited to see where our upcoming release will lead us.